Originally by: Shinzon Ray

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Probably the only way muffins will ever get to kill anyone.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Righteous Fury

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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 07/12/2006 21:01:12

Originally by: Shinzon Ray

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Probably the only way muffins will ever get to kill anyone.

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I'll quote this, for truth, and it goes for most of pirate coalition as well.

If you want to kill shuttles, noob ships, and whatever else in a gank all day long, thats fine. If anyone in pirate coalition ever wanted to call themselves real fighters, they'd stop hiding cloaked in safespots or docked whenever anyone with guns showed up. This is just more proof that instead of being fighters, they're nothing more than cowards.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Traxio Nacho

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Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 08/12/2006 00:15:46

Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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Originally by: Righteous Fury

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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 07/12/2006 21:01:12

Originally by: Shinzon Ray

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Probably the only way muffins will ever get to kill anyone.

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I'll quote this, for truth, and it goes for most of pirate coalition as well.

If you want to kill shuttles, noob ships, and whatever else in a gank all day long, thats fine. If anyone in pirate coalition ever wanted to call themselves real fighters, they'd stop hiding cloaked in safespots or docked whenever anyone with guns showed up. This is just more proof that instead of being fighters, they're nothing more than cowards.

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The #1 rule of piracy is to make sure that you can win the fight any time that some crow or vagabond sits orbiting the station going 8km/s it is a sure sign that a blob is comming fitted to their advantage. Taking advantage of people is what pirating is all about idiot, going down in some scenic heroic fight is an expensive last resort and when it comes down to it the way that leaves you with the most money is the best option. (unless that option is logging out then shame on you)

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The guy was flying and Rax it was hardly a expensive ship!

Like others say in this thread if PC don't keep to 1 vs 1 and are actually defending people in their alliance that don't then why should anyone ever pay you a ransom again.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Maximillian Pele

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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I'm not supporting the dishonoring of the 1 v 1 I was simply making a statement on how people run. Frankly I think that was cold blooded what they did I'm just sick of every blob and their mother expecting me to come out and fight with the odds stacked against me just to say I went down fighting

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So you combat blobing by blobing? And unfair fights with unfair fights?

This is why solo PvP is dead in EvE - everyone is so afraid to loose a ship that they'll do anything (blob, loggski, lag+node crash, petition) to avoid it.

While CCP seems to be doing their best to screw this game in the end it's the players who have made it what it is.

It's a crying shame.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: kublai

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PAYUS/PC Pirate coalition however you style their name/tag has gone downhill lately tbh, I know one or two good people in there but most the pirate coalition i've come across as of late have been newbie wannabes smacking up local with "we could have dreads here in an hour if we wanted!" with their 1.2 sec status and 3 months of eve, now I thought this was merely due to poor recruiting but after watching what tillers been writing in here.

Well my own 1v1 expiriences with muffin factory have been good, and though they can be annoying smack *******, i'd never thought them to dishonour a 1v1, and I do actually believe it will be dealt with.

Tiller, and the rest of pirate coalition just keep sinking lower however, between the forum whining about camping nerf's and the bull**** i've seen here you twirps arent worth a nickle in my book.

I dishonoured a 1v1 once, I was 2 weeks old in the game and a f'king idiot, never done it since.

I honor ransoms, and I honor 1v1's.

To me, dishonouring a 1v1 is just as bad as dishonouring a ransom, and I would -urge- people NOT to pay PAYUS ransom requests as pirates who don't honour 1v1's, nor are "encouraged" to do so by their corporations/alliances are hardly the trustworthy kind.

This I tell you, as a pirate, not some ticked carebear.

Nor do I have any qualm with PAYUS, i'm pretty sure I got a + rating in their books.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Zaethiel

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As a real pirate unlike PC i have a -10 and my corp/alliance honor any and all contracts deals or 1v1. The last time someone dishonored a 1v1 we killed them podded them and kicked them from the corp. If PC arent running missions in empire like most of their members do they either 20v1 blob anyone or run to the station and dock. I dont care whehter your a pirate or not you should honor any and all deals/ransoms/1v1/contracts whatever you agree to.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Xendie

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 08/12/2006 04:28:28


So you are going to tell the galaxy to cut into my income simply becaue some one else is being an idiot ?

Not to mention I am completley against smack in local since I believe its like playing with fire your bound to get burned so don't judge an entire alliance because of some one elses faults

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you side with the asshats and condone what they do by flying with them.
your alliance have choices if adressed right away, you can boot the offending players and refund the guy his ship and gear and give him a apology(to late for that now though)
if you dont like the way your alliance/corpmates operate like in this case you can simply tell them to **** off and leave the corp/alliance, i did that when a CEO ordered me to fill shuttles with bookmarks to lag out other people.

in the end it comes down to personal integrity, do you have any or do you not?

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Cadela Fria

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You reap what you sow tiller...thats just how things work.
But lets wait and see..maybe it'll all sort itself out.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Maximillian Pele

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You mistreat ophaned kittens

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Righteous Fury

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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The #1 rule of piracy is to make sure that you can win the fight any time that some crow or vagabond sits orbiting the station going 8km/s it is a sure sign that a blob is comming fitted to their advantage. Taking advantage of people is what pirating is all about idiot, going down in some scenic heroic fight is an expensive last resort and when it comes down to it the way that leaves you with the most money is the best option. (unless that option is logging out then shame on you)

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Please, call me an idiot again, I dare you. I've been pirating for nigh on 3 years now, and guess what? Pirating isnt about taking advantage of people.

Killing haulers and gang-molesting solo ships to call yourselves elite is what every other real pvper likes to call "utter cowardice." You see, the sad part about your existence is that anyone with enough time can be just like you. It's not difficult to sit on a gate or outside sentry range and kill people, all the while being aligned to run if you see the gate fire more than once in ten seconds. If you want to call yourself 'smart' for avoiding the blob, feel free. But when you run from equal numbers, or you hide from a smaller number of ships (as PAYUS hidden from us on more occasions than I can count), you're nothing above pathetic.

Continue calling yourselves real pirates, really, it fits you. Because you know, real pirates can't stand up for themselves and defend their territory. When you want to be a real outlaw, knowing the real meaning of a evenly matched fight or fighting outnumbered and possesing the skill and knowledge to win, feel free to look us up. Perhaps we'll give you the privilege of being utterly smashed.

Until then, please keep deluding yourselves. Your false sense of elitism just makes it all that much easier to kill you.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: Seleene

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If I ever accept a 1 vs. 1, count on at least 20 people, three carriers and a mining barge with drones to be on your death mail.

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lol, the mining barge is for final blow humiliation I take it ?

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Whatever works.

I did a 1 v 1 against Innominate Nightmare once. He was in an Ibis and I was in a Moros. It was a close one, but after three hours of intense battle I remembered I had drones and that was his doom.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Righteous Fury

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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 08/12/2006 22:31:46

Originally by: shogun1

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Edited by: shogun1 on 08/12/2006 07:39:09
winning > playing fair.

Originally by: Righteous Fury

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Pirating isnt about taking advantage of people.

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BULL****. Pirating isnt about playing by the rules, either. If you call yourself a pirate and play by rules in any sense(except ransoming. Looking out for #1) your forgetting what being a pirate is all about. Ill be damned if I see an oxymoron as big as the quote above.

Rules? WHAT RULES?! I have never seen a pirate plunder a house then leave thanking the family. ******* retarded, thats what that is. Steal the loot, murder the livestock and take the women! Thats how its played. If you can actually conceive that pirates might have honor, your a bleeding heart carebear.

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I don't quite recall anywhere in my post that I said anything about rules. If you'd like to re-quote it point it out to me, please do so. I'd really appreciate it.

Real pirates don't run from evenly matched fights.
Real pirates don't sit in one system for weeks on end killing anything that comes through.
Real pirates don't talk smack while sitting inside a station after running from the gate.

Real pirates actually go out and look for fights, probe down mission runners, kill anyone else trying to steal their targets, jump into gatecamps while outgunned, and professionally plunder their enemies.

You think you're special because you have a -10 security status, tank sentries with ten of your corpmates to kill one battleship, and have 2000 shuttle kills to your name? You think you have tons of friends because you've negotiated a NAP with every other pirate corp in the region? You think you're the man because you take advantage of the incompetent and the weak? Congratulations, you've worked real hard to be mediocre.

Does all of this make me think I'm better than you? Quite frankly, its not a question. I'm better than you, and should you dare challenge that assumption you will be slapped back in your place so hard you'll be dropping isk out your ass for weeks.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Mista Sexamalicious

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Originally by: Xoria Krint

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Lame in my opinion

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And that in accord with what has been displayed by the original OP is the truth.

I have no idea what has been said in the 6 pages of this thread, but I must say say this community has change for the absolute worst.

P.S. My corp is open to war-dec for those idgits, and their entire corps, who feel the old ways are not worth the FIGHT!.
PvP is the sex.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Ju'Co

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Pirate Coalition : The "ASCN" of piracy.

1: Get as many people as you can into the fold with mass recruiting of newbs.
2: Ask for NAPs with anyone who can wtf pwn you on a regular basis.
3: Whine like the ****ens if you lose a ship to anything : Lag/Larger Gangs/Older Players/anything.
4: Use every time you kill anything, regardless of how it was done as an example of your leetsauce. (go go post that shuttle loss on podbase.com! K/Dration wee!)
5: Offer classes in "speed posting" and "forum whorage" and "Thread Necromancy/Derailing" to your members.

Anyway, Tiller you can be cool at times, this stance that kill is a kill is pretty bad imho. We should have used that when we invited a pilot of yours to the ransom channel we have, after he was already deep in armor, then turned around and accused us of "chat spaming" - : we should say, a kill is a kill.
Skywalker: No offence mate, but some of your members have made me a bit "disapointed"
while other members are good guys, but I guess that can be said of anyone.

Its the other members of PC that are the ASCN of piracy imho

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: SkottE

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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Originally by: Shinzon Ray

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Probably the only way muffins will ever get to kill anyone.

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Brave post mr. alt (I don't do 1v1 since the person asking will always be fitted just to kill me lol)

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that's why you change your ship?

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Sebiestor Scribe

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is that an alt >.<

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Verone

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Just noticed something... Follow these in order.. Muffinman...

Picture Linkage

Muffin Linkage

Veto Linkage

I mean... come on guys, if you're going to copy our corp policy word for word, at least change our corp name to yours and have your guys follow it.

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Verone

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Originally by: tiller

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btw, my firefox inbuilt spell checker tries to change your name to veronica. Time to come out of the closet maybe ?

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Only on a Sunday

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: weedmasta

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Na this incident happened in Bleaklands. I don't think he even tried to make it back because he realised too late that he had jumped the wrong gate. Pretty sure it was muffin too (the player)

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: tiller

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Edited by: tiller on 21/12/2006 18:15:19

To sum up this thread for anyone new to it...

'PIRATES, THEY KILL YOU LOL'

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Exogene

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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7 days FOR 7 DAYS THIS THREAD WAS FINALLY DEAD AND YOUR ASS DECIDED TO PREFORM CPR

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You sound like them touchy carebears. Why are you so interested in a thread, that is discrediting your whole alliance with clear proof, to die? I thought "real pirates" don't care and can't be bothered with such things. Looks like you care so much about it that you even bothered to count the days from last that last post until today and wrote it in bold, capped and red color

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You don't stand a chance -Karl

Originally by: Exogene

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PC has proved over and over in this thread that their word cannot be trusted with their replies. Now who's fault is that? The OPs? The repondents? Or your members who responded? Think about it

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You don't stand a chance -Karl